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(Cleveland, Ohio, October 28, 1894 \u2013 Grove City, Ohio, October 26, 1974)1<\/a><\/p>\n

<\/a>Wyton, London Colney<\/a>\u00a0 \u272f Commission, Turnberry<\/a> \u00a0\u272f\u00a0 Ayr, ferrying<\/a> \u00a0\u272f\u00a0 France & No. 56<\/a>\u00a0 \u272f\u00a0 Over the lines<\/a>\u00a0 \u272f Preparing for Epinoy<\/a>\u00a0 \u272f August 1918<\/a>\u00a0 \u272f\u00a0 August 8, 1918<\/a>\u00a0 \u272f\u00a0 \u00a0Awards<\/a><\/p>\n

Herbert\u2019s ancestors on both his mother\u2019s and his father\u2019s side were Welsh, part of the large immigration of Welsh families to Ohio in the nineteenth century; family names include Jones, Evans, and Davies.2<\/a>\u00a0His father was for a time a school teacher, and then was involved in the coal industry in Cleveland.3<\/a>\u00a0Herbert attended high school in Cleveland and then entered college at Western Reserve University, graduating in 1915; he remained there to study law.4<\/a>\u00a0When he registered for the draft in 1917, he was at Fort Benjamin Harrison in Indiana, a \u201ccandidate,\u201d presumably in R.O.T.C. He entered ground school at Ohio State University in the summer of 1917 and graduated with the class of September 1, 1917<\/a>.5<\/a><\/p>\n

Along with most of his O.S.U. classmates<\/a>, Herbert chose or was chosen to train in Italy, and he joined the 150 men of the \u201cItalian\u201d or \u201csecond Oxford detachment\u201d who sailed to England on the Carmania<\/i>. They departed New York for Halifax on September 18, 1917, and departed Halifax as part of a convoy for the Atlantic crossing on September 21, 1917. When the\u00a0Carmania<\/i>\u00a0docked at Liverpool on October 2, 1917, the detachment learned to their initial consternation that they were not to go to Italy, but to remain in England and repeat ground school at the Royal Flying Corps\u2019s No. 2 School of Military Aeronautics at Oxford University.<\/p>\n

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Herbert as he appears in a large group photo<\/a> of men of the Oxford detachments taken sometime in October 1917.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Herbert was among the ninety cadets (as they were now called) from the detachment who were housed initially in Peckwater Quadrangle of Christ Church College; his roommates were Parr Hooper and Robert Thomas Palmer. When all 150 men were moved to Exeter College around the middle of the month, Hooper wrote that he had \u201cthe same two roommates here that I had at Christ Church and we get along very well. We drew a convenient room on the second floor. There is no heat and we wash in cold water in basins in a little yard outside the court.\u201d6<\/a><\/p>\n

On November 3, 1917, after a month of ground school at Oxford, Herbert, along with most of the cadets, departed for Grantham in Lincolnshire to attend machine gun school at Harrowby Camp.\u00a0 There they spent about two weeks in classes and on the range learning to fire Lewis machine guns, with the prospect of another two learning about the Vickers machine gun.<\/p>\n

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Parr Hooper took this photo in November 1917 at Grantham. Herbert looks on while Edward Frank Hollander aims the gun.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The would-be aviators were in a holding pattern at Grantham, because there were as yet no openings for them at training squadrons.\u00a0 \u00a0In his entry for November 8, 1917, the War Birds<\/i>\u00a0diarist writes: \u201cCal, Herbert, Fulford and Fry are sitting around the table now drinking port out of their canteens and writing home. Every one is fed up. I don\u2019t see how we are going to stand three more weeks of this. Aren\u2019t we ever going to fly?\u201d<\/p>\n

<\/a>Wyton, London Colney<\/a><\/h6>\n

About a week later, places opened up at training squadrons for fifty of the cadets. Initially, according to Hooper, he and Herbert were among ten men selected to go to Doncaster.7<\/a>\u00a0In the end Hooper was posted to Northolt, while Herbert, along with Earl Adams, Robert Alexander Anderson, Guy Maynard Baldwin, and Stanley Cooper Kerk, set out on November 19, 1917, for Wyton in Cambridgeshire. Adams, according to his R.A.F. service record, was assigned to No. 31 Training Squadron there, and this was probably where the other four trained as well.8<\/a><\/p>\n

Herbert\u2019s posting to Wyton lasted about a month. By December 18, 1917, he had been reassigned to No. 56 Training Squadron at London Colney, along with about other twelve men from the second Oxford detachment.9<\/a>\u00a0 The proximity to London meant that the men\u2019s social life picked up considerably. Elliott White Springs, also at London Colney, wrote in his diary for January 18, 1918: \u201cMuch tattered and torn Herbert and I get back at 3 to find we\u2019re in for a big strafe. So we make a last night of it and go up to Stamford\u201d; the next day: \u201cThe C.O. gives us hell but no CB [confined to barracks].\u201d10<\/a>\u00a0Herbert\u2019s name appears among the party goers and givers in\u00a0War Birds\u00a0<\/i>entries for January 31, 1917, and February 16, 1918.<\/p>\n

Training at London Colney began with flying Avros dual, i.e., with an instructor, and progressed to flying the same planes solo. Towards the end of February the men began to fly Sopwith Pups and in early March Spads.11<\/a>\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n

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Herbert, Robert Alexander Anderson, and Parr Hooper evidently took turns photographing one another in front of this Spad VII, A8867, at London Colney in early 1918. I am grateful to Wayne Braby for the negative from which this slightly cropped reproduction has been made. See here<\/a> for a photo of Herbert with Anderson in front of this plane. And here<\/a> for Anderson and others with an Avro at London Colney.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

They practiced stunts and formation flying. On March 15, 1918, Herbert led Hooper and Francis Kinloch Read, all apparently flying Spads, forty miles cross country to his primary training squadron at Wyton: \u201cIt was great sport because we all are very chummy and went on sort of a lark. Frank and l had almost no idea where we were. We could watch each other all the time. We followed old Herb like a dog\u2019s tail and trusted he knew where he was going.\u201d12<\/a><\/p>\n

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Entry from Hooper’s Pilots Flying Log Book showing his flight with Herbert and Read on March 15, 1918.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
<\/a>Commission, Turnberry<\/a><\/h6>\n

By this time Herbert had flown enough hours and completed the requirements to qualify for his commission. Pershing\u2019s cable forwarding the recommendation to Washington is dated March 6, 1918. Confirmation came unusually swiftly, in a cable dated March 17, 1918.13<\/a>\u00a0The next day, Herbert, Hooper, and Read left London Colney for London, and the day after that travelled up to Turnberry in Scotland for training in aerial gunnery.14<\/a>\u00a0The three of them shared a room at the luxurious hotel<\/a> associated with the Turnberry golf course, which had been taken over by the R.F.C. By Hooper\u2019s account, they enjoyed both the accommodations and one another\u2019s company: \u201cThis is very luxurious living for war times. Turnberry is a famous golf course, right on the coast. It was developed by the railroad. We all live in the large swell hotel<\/a>. We have beds, sheets, fine bath rooms, hot water etc. Herb, Frank, myself, and an R.F.C. chap are in one room. Our window looks right out<\/a> over the Firth of Clyde and Irish Sea. There is a big army of WAACs here waiting on table and fixing up our rooms. The meals so far have been wonderful. The sea air is so bracing that I feel like eating all the time.\u201d15<\/a>\u00a0\u201c[M]y roommates Tommy Herbert and Frank Read are getting so blooming congenial that when we get together here in the room to write we spend most of our time laughing and talking.\u201d16<\/a><\/p>\n

Hooper also describes their course at Turnberry: \u201cWe spend about 7 hours a day on the machine gun range. We have about 3 men using one gun and keep it pretty busy. The guns are arranged in aeroplane fuselages which are pivoted on a ball and socket joint. The regular aeroplane controls are all rigged to balance and point this fuselage just as though you were flying the bus in the air. We practice correcting gun stoppages and sighting on model aeroplanes set at various angles.\u201d17<\/a><\/p>\n

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“Tommy on deflection target, Turnberry.” Hooper took this photo of Herbert on March 23, 1918.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
<\/a>Ayr, ferrying<\/a><\/h6>\n

At the end of March, Herbert, Hooper, and Read moved on to the School of Aerial Fighting at Ayr<\/a>, a few mile up the west coast of Scotland coast from Turnberry. For the first week there, however, the newcomers were in the \u201cnon-flying pool,\u201d and occupied themselves with walks and bike rides in the countryside. Hooper writes that on one of these days, \u201cTommy (Herbert) and I took the bikes out this morning. We went down the coast south of the Heads of Ayr and rode down to the beach and played around on it with the bikes.<\/p>\n

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Photo of Herbert taken by Hooper during their bike ride in early April 1918<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

\u201cThen we climbed up the rocks of the cliff of the Heads of Ayr and took some pictures. Coming home we cut into a little byroad, coasted down a winding and steep cow path. After several hair breadth escapes my bus finally chucked me down a ten foot bank into a newly plowed field. No casualties. Then we discovered we both had punctured our tires and had to walk them 3 miles home. We just got back in time to get the last end of lunch.\u201d18<\/a>\u00a0Other recreation at Ayr included baseball<\/a>, a favorite pastime of Herbert\u2019s.<\/p>\n

Assuming Herbert\u2019s training at Ayr resembled Hooper\u2019s, he would have begun flying on about April 6, 1918, and have initially put in a fair amount of time on Avros, again, mostly solo. At some point he would have flown Spads, and then, towards the middle of April, finally have started flying an S.E.5, the plane he would fly in France. It is likely that Herbert, while at Ayr, encountered James McCudden, one of the celebrated pilots of No. 56 Squadron (not to be confused with No. 56 Training Squadron). McCudden, home from the front, was posted for a brief period to Ayr, and Hooper noted that he \u201chas given us a couple of lectures.\u201d19<\/a><\/p>\n

On May 2, 1918, Read wrote in a letter home that he \u201cwas going to report to London tonight for overseas, but have to stay here a day or so for this court-martial. We are going to have about four men to try and expect to have a big time.\u201d19a<\/a>\u00a0 A photo of the officers<\/a> at the court martial includes Herbert; there is no record of who was being tried or for what offense.<\/p>\n

On May 10, 1918, Hooper had just completed a stint as a ferry pilot and was in London reporting to go overseas. There he found that \u201cTommy Herbert, Frank Read, and Paul Winslow \u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. are in town starting to ferry pilot. They and [Roland Hammond] \u201cRit\u201d Ritter,\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. [Duerson] Knight\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. and two other of us Am. pilots (who are starting to ferry<\/a>) and myself all went to lunch at the American Officers\u2019 Club. We all got in the back of one taxi and yelled and sang in a manner that probably shocked the Britishers and our superior officers that might have seen it.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. We had a fine meal there, fried chicken on a meatless day, and lots of fun.\u201d20<\/a><\/p>\n

There is a passage in the\u00a0War Birds<\/i> entry for April 25, 1918, that mentions Herbert and Winslow: \u201cTommy Herbert and Paul Winslow were in the other night full of rumors. They have a scheme for getting switched from Camels, or rather Winslow has. They are ferrying and always take a Bristol Fighter. They are going to pass themselves off as Bristol pilots. Tommy is not so enthusiastic as he crashed a Bristol last week and broke a couple of ribs and sprained his back. I wish he’d sprain his throat so he couldn\u2019t sing.\u201d It is difficult to disentangle fact from poetic license, but the date is certainly off, given that the court martial detained Herbert and Winslow at Ayr into early May 1918. They may well have ferried Bristol Fighters, but that they had been destined for a Camel squadron is unlikely. (And Herbert\u2019s singing, in duets with Winslow, was reported as popular and appreciated by squadron mates in France).21<\/a><\/p>\n

<\/a>France and No. 56 Squadron R.A.F.<\/a><\/h6>\n

On June 6, 1918, Herbert, Winslow, Read, and John L. C. Rorison were ordered to Boulogne to report \u201cfor assignment to duty, in connection with aviation.\u201d21a<\/a> \u00a0They, along with a number of other men from the Oxford detachments, spent their first days in France marking time and digging trenches at a pilots pool at Rang-du-Fliers, about twenty miles south of Boulogne, as documented in a photo from the album of John Chadbourn Rorison.22<\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0Postings to R.A.F. squadrons finally came at the end of the month. On June 29, 1918, Winslow wrote in his diary:<\/p>\n

At last, after three weeks here (Rang du Fliers No. 2 Pool, France) Tommy and I were posted to 60 Squadron. At eleven o\u2019clock 60\u2019s tender came and picked us up, bag and baggage. We stopped at Abbeville and then carried on to 60, arriving at 2:30, and were told that we did not belong there but at 56, and were shipped off without any lunch. Poor Frank Read nearly cried when we left, and our impression of 60 was very poor. Arriving here [56] the change of atmosphere was very apparent. Captain [Gerald Joseph Constable] Maxwell, the CO\u2014Major [Euan James Leslie Warren] Gilchrist\u2014and everybody turned out to meet us. It seems they had us transferred when we were on route. I think we landed on both feet, as this is the top squadron in the RAF. We are south of Doullens and patrol from Albert to Arras.23<\/a><\/p>\n

Maxwell had been an instructor at Ayr when Herbert and Winslow were training there in April. The reputation of No. 56 Squadron and its pilots was well established. It had been the first squadron to be equipped with the S.E.5, the best R.F.C. scout plane at the time. 56 deployed to France with the S.E.5 in April 1917. In June of the same year the squadron \u201cupgraded\u201d to S.E.5a\u2019s, which had even better speed and climb. Starting in November 1917, No. 56 Squadron was assigned to the R.F.C.\/R.A.F. Thirteenth Wing, and supported the British Third Army by seeking out and destroying enemy aircraft along the Third Army\u2019s front, roughly, as Winslow noted, from Albert north to Arras\u2014although, with the start of the Battle of Amiens on August 8, 1918, they would be charged with assisting on the Fourth Army front just to the south, thus working east of Amiens.24<\/a>\u00a0The pilots were divided into flights of, apparently, four or five pilots each, and often went out in patrols of two flights, one patrolling and stalking, the other protecting.<\/p>\n

When Herbert and Winslow arrived at 56, the squadron was at Valheureux, about thirteen miles due north of Amiens. They had been there since March 25, 1918, i.e., since shortly after the opening of the German spring offensive.25<\/a>\u00a0There were several Americans assigned to 56, but Winslow was the only member of the first Oxford detachment to serve with the squadron. In addition to Herbert, two second Oxford detachment men served with 56. Ritter had been assigned to 56 in May but had been sent to hospital in mid-June, probably suffering from Spanish flu; Wendell Ellison Borncamp was assigned to 56 around the same time as Herbert and Winslow.<\/p>\n

Alex Revell, in\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, his history of No. 56 Squadron during World War I, reports that the 56 Squadron record book for July and August is missing; there is thus no complete list of patrols flown during the period Herbert was there.26<\/a>\u00a0Nonetheless, by using personal diaries and other sources, Revell is able to provide considerable day to day detail of the squadron\u2019s activities.<\/p>\n

The R.A.F. gave pilots new to the front three weeks to familiarize themselves with their squadron and the geography of the area where they would fly; only after this period did they go over the lines. There is a record of Herbert being taken by Maxwell to view the front line on July 7, 1918. He went up with Maxwell again on July 15, 1918\u2014just a few days after the entire squadron had gone to Auxi-le-Ch\u00e2teau to attend the funeral of McCudden, killed in an air accident July 9, 1918.27<\/a><\/p>\n

<\/a>Over the lines<\/a><\/h6>\n

On July 19, 1918, at 6:30 in the morning, a patrol of two flights from 56, with Herbert in the top flight, led by William Otway Boger, set off; this was probably Herbert\u2019s first time over the lines, but without the squadron record book or Herbert\u2019s log book, this remains surmise. Herbert\u2019s flight \u201cattempted to attack four enemy scouts above them, but although they drove these east they could not close the range sufficiently to attack, finally leaving them east of Bapaume,\u201d some twenty-five or thirty miles due east of the Valheureux aerodrome. They tried to attack three Fokker DVIIs north of Bapaume, over Boyelles, without success, and returned home.28<\/a><\/p>\n

Bad weather meant some days with no flying. There were patrols on July 20 and 22, 1918; Revell does not mention Herbert in connection with them, but does not identify all those who flew those missions. Herbert did participate in a patrol on July 24, 1918, which happened to be Winslow\u2019s first, and which the latter described in his diary: \u201cOrders came through for a COP [close offensive patrol] at 7:15pm, upon which I was placed. Led by Bill Boger, with \u2018Sambo\u2019 [William Roy] Irwin and I flying right and left, with [Thomas Douglas] Hazen and Tommy Herbert behind, we left the ground and crossed the Lines at Albert at 6,000 feet. By the time we reached Arras, we were at 10,000 feet and then headed east into Hunland, crossing Bapaume at 15,000 feet.\u201d29<\/a>\u00a0Another flight of three S.E.5a\u2019s from 56 led by Henry John Burden flew above them. Revell describes how \u201cA little before 8:00, Boger\u2019s formation flew under a formation of nine Pfalz D.IIIs\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. in an attempt to lure them down. [They] refused the bait and Boger turned the Flight and repeated the manoeuvre.\u201d30<\/a>\u00a0Boger\u2019s second effort was successful: the Pfalz airplanes attacked the lower flight in which Herbert and Winslow were flying and were \u201csandwiched between the lower SEs and Burden\u2019s flight\u2014the latter being reinforced by a patrol of SEs from 84 Squadron\u201d31<\/a>\u00a0 Winslow reported that \u201cThe dogfight lasted ten minutes, but there was so much going on that I didn\u2019t have time to get scared.\u201d32<\/a>\u00a0Boger succeeded in downing two Pfalz (and received the D.F.C. in recognition of his actions this day), and all planes from 56 returned safely.33<\/a>\u00a0Much of Winslow\u2019s diary entry for that day is taken up not by the fight, but by the journey home through towering and endless seeming clouds, lightening, and rain; Herbert\u2019s experience was probably similar.<\/p>\n

<\/a>Preparing to bomb aerodrome at Epinoy<\/a><\/h6>\n

During the last days of July 1918, pilots of No. 56 Squadron spent time practicing low bombing and strafing, not the type of warfare for which they were primarily trained. The Allied offensive that ultimately won the war was to open August 8, 1918, and air support included destruction of German air defenses in advance of the offensive. The two R.A.F. squadrons at Valheureux, 56 and 3, were assigned to bomb the German aerodrome at Epinoy, forty miles to the east, with Squadron Nos. 60, 87, and 11 flying protection and photographing results.<\/p>\n

The raid was initially scheduled for July 30, 1918, but low clouds prompted the leader to abort the mission. It may have been rescheduled for the next day, but once again did not come off. Instead there was a picnic on the Somme; Herbert appears in pictures taken there, perhaps that day, or shortly before or after.34<\/a>\u00a0It may be noted in passing that another popular form of recreation at Valheureux was baseball\u2014Revell has been able to find and reproduce photos of 56’s team.35<\/a>\u00a0American Mark Curtis Kinney flew Sopwith Camels with No. 3 Squadron R.A.F. and recalled that \u201cAt times pilots of the two outfits [3 & 56] met for a game of baseball.\u201d He encountered Herbert at one of these, and the two exchanged opinions on their respective planes, with Herbert \u201ccompletely sold on the S.E.5.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. \u2018I wouldn\u2019t fly that damned pilot-killer Camel.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. The S.E.5 has power and speed and it\u2019s so stable you can fly it hands off. I know the Camel is the most maneuverable plane in the air, but I\u2019ll take the S.E.5.\u2019\u201d36<\/a>\u00a0Herbert perhaps knew of the string of fatal Camel accidents involving pilots in training that had occurred at Ayr in March shortly before he arrived there to train.<\/p>\n

<\/a>August 1918<\/a><\/h6>\n

On August 1, 1918, Winslow recorded in his diary that \u201cThe great bomb raid came off today, most successfully, to say the least.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. The CO [Gilchrist], [Harold Arthur Sydney] Molyneux and I were the leading triangle, with Bill Boger and Hazen on the left. \u2018Sambo\u2019 Irwin, [John Kent] Blair and Herbert, the triangle on the right, and Hank Burden, [Cyril Brownlow] Stenning and [Herbert] Allen in the rear. Each of us had been assigned a different target, studied from actual photographs.<\/p>\n

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One of the photos of Epinoy studied by the pilots of No. 56. I am grateful to Rosemary Tolliver, Herbert’s daughter, for this scan. A larger version can be seen here.<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

\u201cAt eleven we took off and climbed to 11,000 feet over Doullens, where the rendezvous was.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. In all there were 65 machines in the raid.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. Crossed the Lines at 12,000 and lost height down the Arras\u2013Cambrai road to 4,000 feet, where the escort remained. It was then we saw Epinoy, our target.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. The CO made a wide turn to the left and then dove, \u2018Sambo\u2019 and Tommy followed and then I came.\u201d37<\/a>\u00a0 Flying at 200 feet, Herbert \u201ckilled 3 mechanics by machine gun fire and shot up hangars and billets.\u201d38<\/a>\u00a0In the course of ten minutes, the planes from 56 \u201cdropped a total of 44 20lb Cooper bombs and expended the greater part of their ammunition, starting several fires in huts and hangars and setting four aeroplanes on fire,\u201d all this without any loss to themselves.39<\/a> A congratulatory message arrived from the III Brigade commander, Charles Alexander Holcombe Longcroft (who had been \u201cin a Camel watching from above\u201d), that described the raid as a \u201ccomplete success.\u201d40<\/a><\/p>\n

Revell indicates that uneventful patrols were flown on August 2 and 3, 1918, despite mist and rain; he does not indicate who flew. The next day (August 4, 1918) began rainy, but cleared by evening, as Winslow recorded in his diary, and, despite wind, \u201cA Flight went on patrol, Bill Boger leading, Tommy and Stenning close, Molyneaux [sic] and I, rear. Left at 6:50 P.M., climbed to Lens, crossed the lines at 10,000, climbed to Albert, and patrolled at 14,000. Just at 7:48, I saw six Pfalz scouts below us and at the same moment climbed into the sun, and then dove. They were at 9,000 and started to stunt\u2014they were clever. Tommy got one, and Bill fought another\u2014it was Tommy\u2019s first.\u201d41<\/a>\u00a0Herbert, who was flying S.E.5a B8423, reported:42<\/a><\/p>\n

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The “leader being attacked” was Boger.\u00a0 \u00a0“. . . seemed to avoid” should perhaps be “zoomed [up\/away] to avoid.”<\/figcaption><\/figure>Stenning and Winslow were attacked by the Fokkers: \u201cIt was time we moved as we were two to seven, so we turned West and dove. They did the same and filled my wings full of holes. I half rolled with full engine and went for the lines.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. [We] tootled home, arriving at 8:25 in time to confirm Herbert\u2019s Hun.\u201d43<\/a>\u00a0The patrol and combat evidently made an impression on the squadron members. Owen Cobb Holleran, another American with 56, mentioned the patrol and combat in his diary, with more alliteration than accuracy: \u201cBill Boger went up with three other fellows on patrol this afternoon. Met 14 Huns over Ham and tackled them. Bill got one and so did Tommy Herbert of the U.S.A.S. Hard luck on Tommy because if he had been with the French or American armies he would get a decoration for the scrap.\u201d44<\/a>\u00a0 There were no patrols the next two days because of bad weather; patrols were flown on August 7, 1918, and Herbert may well have been with one led by Boger in the evening, but that is surmise.45<\/a><\/div>\n
<\/a>August 8, 1918<\/a><\/h6>\n
The next day, August 8, 1918, was the opening day of the great Allied offensive, which began with the Battle of Amiens. As noted earlier, No. 56 squadron was assigned now to assist the British Fourth Army and was thus flying and fighting in the area east of Amiens. Winslow records a dawn line patrol that day in which Herbert probably also participated.46<\/a>That evening there was another patrol apparently consisting of a top flight of five planes flying at 14,000 feet, and a lower one of three planes\u2014Boger leading Winslow and Herbert (again flying S.E.5a B8423) at 12,000 feet. Winslow reports that \u201cAs soon as we crossed the lines, we saw 15\u201318 red-tailed Huns, Pfalz and Fokker combined. When we got into position, we dove. Bill Boger mixed immediately and we lost him from sight. Tommy Herbert and I engaged, and Tommy got on one\u2019s tail, while I shot another off Tommy\u2019s tail.\u00a0.\u00a0.\u00a0. Tommy and I did right hand climbing turns to the West and then Tommy turned again, and that was the last I saw of him.\u201d47<\/a>\u00a0 Winslow flew up to join the upper flight; he landed back at Valheureux at 8:30. \u201cTommy did not turn up, and I am awfully worried. It might be that he landed on the French front and could not get word through\u2014at least, that is what I try to think. My best friend, too.\u201d48<\/a>\u00a0Two Fokkers were \u201cawarded\u201d to the squadron as destroyed on that patrol, one of them credited to Herbert.49<\/a>\u00a0 The next evening, \u201cWord came through . . . that Tommy was in a hospital on our side of the lines, wounded in the knee and face.\u201d50<\/a>\u00a0Herbert\u2019s combat report was taken from him in hospital.51<\/a><\/div>\n
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\"\"At the end of his diary entry for August 10, 1918, Winslow wrote: \u201cSaw Tommy at the hospital; he is being sent to England.\u201d52<\/a>\u00a0 From the field hospital Herbert was taken initially to No. 8 General Hospital at Rouen where a wounded Frank Read had been since mid-July.\u00a0 On August 12, 1918, Read wrote home that \u201cMy friend Tommy Herbert arrived here yesterday, with a fractured leg, how bad I don\u2019t know yet, perhaps we can fly up to get somewhere to-gether, I hope so.\u201d\u00a0 But the next day:\u00a0 \u201cTommy Herbert had a very bad leg, a piece gone out of the bone, so they sent him right away to England.\u201d52a<\/a>\u00a0 Herbert had been transferred to 37 Bryanston Square, a private house belonging to Lady Tredegar that had been turned into a small hospital for R.F.C.\/R.A.F. pilots.53<\/a>\u00a0There, about two weeks later, the bed opposite him was given to his friend of No. 3 Squadron, Kinney, who had been wounded August 16, 1918.54<\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0In early October Herbert once again received a visit from Winslow, who was by this time working at U.S. Air Service Headquarters in London.54a<\/a><\/p>\n

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The “person” casualty card for Herbert noting information about him following his crash on August 8, 1918. That the term “Colonial” was anachronistic when applied to U.S. cadets does not seem to have occurred to those in the R.A.F. charged with keeping track of them.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
<\/a>Awards<\/a><\/h6>\n

In the first half of September, Herbert was awarded the British Distinguished Flying Cross, proving Holleran wrong, as the award was in part for his \u201cscrap\u201d on August 4, 1918. The citation reads:55<\/a><\/p>\n

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Before the end of the war, Herbert was also awarded the U.S. Distinguished Service Cross.56<\/a>\u00a0He was apparently transferred at some point to U.S. Army Base Hospital No. 37 at Dartford in Kent and was part of a small contingent of sick and wounded from that hospital who sailed from Liverpool on January 23, 1919, on the H.M.S.\u00a0Celtic<\/i>\u00a0and arrived back in the U.S. on February 2, 1919.57<\/a>\u00a0Springs travelled home on the same ship, and, assuming they found one another on board ship, their conversations must have been lively.<\/p>\n

Herbert returned to Western Reserve University to complete his law studies and went on to a distinguished legal career. He served one term as governor of Ohio as well as a term on the Supreme Court of Ohio.<\/p>\n

mrsmcq February 9, 2018; Ayr, ferrying & France & 56 sections revised June 12, 2023<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

Notes<\/span><\/p>\n

(For complete bibliographic entries, please consult the list of\u00a0works and web pages cited<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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1<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Herbert\u2019s place and date of birth are taken from Ancestry.com,\u00a0U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917\u20131918<\/i>, record for Thomas John Herbert. His place and date of death are taken from Ancestry.com and Ohio Department of Health,\u00a0Ohio, Deaths, 1908\u20131932, 1938\u20132007<\/i>, record for Thomas J. Herbert.\u00a0\u00a0The photo is a detail from one taken by Parr Hooper; see Hooper, Somewhere in France<\/em>, \u201cThomas ‘Tommy’ John Herbert.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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2<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0On Herbert\u2019s descent, see records available at Ancestry.com.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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3<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u201cJohn T. Herbert Dies.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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4<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Western Reserve University,\u00a0Catalogue of Officers, Graduates and Students of Western Reserve College and Adelbert College, 1826-1916<\/i>, p. 75.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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5<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u201cGround School Graduations [for September 1, 1917].\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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6<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, letter of October 27, 1917<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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7<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, letter of November [14], 1917<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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8<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0On the men posted to Wyton, see Foss, diary entry for November 15, 1917. For Adams\u2019s training squadron and date of assignment, see The National Archives (United Kingdom),\u00a0Royal Air Force officers’ service records 1918-1919<\/i>, record for Earl Adams.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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9<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, letter of December 18, 1918<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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10<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Springs,\u00a0Letters from a War Bird<\/i>, p. 77.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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11<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0I\u2019m assuming Herbert\u2019s training proceeded along the same lines as that of Hooper, as documented in Hooper\u2019s\u00a0Pilot\u2019s Flying Log Book<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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12<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, letter of March 31, 1918<\/a>; the flight is dated based on Hooper\u2019s\u00a0Pilot\u2019s Flying Log Book<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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13<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Cablegrams 691-S and 936-R.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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14<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, letter of March 20, 1918<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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15<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Ibid<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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16<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, letter of March 22, 1918<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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17<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Ibid<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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18<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0This passage is an addendum to Hooper\u2019s letter of April 3, 1918<\/a>, and was probably written the next day.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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19<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, letter of April 13, 1918<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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19a<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0Read, letter of May 2, 1918.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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20<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Hooper,\u00a0Somewhere in France<\/i>, May 11, 1918, continuation of letter of May 9, 1918<\/a>. Knight and Winslow were in the first Oxford detachment; the other men named in the second.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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21<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0I have found no casualty card related to a crash involving Herbert during this period, but that does not prove that such a crash did not occur. Winslow\u2019s diary entry for May 27, 1918, records his ferrying an S.E.5 to France. See Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, pp. 340-41, for the comments of an otherwise unidentified \u201cMacDonald\u201d on Herbert and Winslow\u2019s duets.
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21a<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0 Biddle, \u201cSpecial Orders No. 83.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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22<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Doyle, \u201cWar Birds Pictorial,\u201d p. 43.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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23<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Quoted in Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 319. I have not been able to locate Winslow\u2019s original diary; portions of it (not including this one) were published as \u201cAttached to No. 56″; partial typescripts are in the Ola A. Sater Collection in the McDermott Library at the University of Texas at Dallas.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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24<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0On their support of the Fourth Army, see Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 339.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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25<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 407.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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26<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 321.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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27<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0On Herbert\u2019s early flights, see Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, pp. 324 and 328. On squadron attendance at McCudden\u2019s funeral, see Winslow, quoted on p. 327 of the same work.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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28<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 329.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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29<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0This is from Winslow\u2019s diary entry for July 24, 1918, as it appears in Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 330. A slightly different transcription of the entry appears on pp. 314-15 of \u201cAttached to No. 56.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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30<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 330.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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31<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Ibid<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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32<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Winslow diary entry for July 24, 1918, from p. 331 of Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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33<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, pp. 330-31.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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34<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 333.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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35<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, pp. 324\u201325.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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36<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Kinney,\u00a0I Flew a Camel<\/i>, p. 78.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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37<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 336; see the same passage on p. 315 of \u201cAttached to No. 56.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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38<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0From Herbert\u2019s D.F.C. citation; see \u201cList of Honors and Awards, No. 1, Air Service, American E. F.,\u201d p. 8.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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39<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 336.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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40<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 337, with quotation about Longcroft watching from Winslow\u2019s diary.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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41<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0From the August 4, 1918, entry in Winslow\u2019s diary, from p. 316 of \u201cAttached to No. 56.\u201d See also, Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 338; Revell reports the patrol \u201ccrossing the Lines east of Arras at 12,500 feet.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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42<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0From Herbert\u2019s combat report, reproduced as p. 46 of\u00a0Individual Combat Records of Pilots with R.A.F.<\/i>\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 338, reports the patrol stalking and attaching \u201csix Pfalz D.III,\u201d not eight. Herbert\u2019s plane number on this combat report is given as \u201cD8423,\u201d an error for \u201cB8423\u201d; compare his combat report for August 8, 1918, below, and see the relevant entries in Robertson,\u00a0British Military Aircraft Serials 1878\u20131987<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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43<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0From the August 4, 1918, entry in Winslow\u2019s diary, from p. 316 of \u201cAttached to No. 56.\u201d The last member of the patrol, Molyneux, attacked one of the Fokkers, but had to withdraw with engine trouble; a bad landing resulted in a sprained wrist; see Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 338.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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44<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Holleran,\u00a0Holly His Book<\/i>, p. 145.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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45<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0See Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, pp. 338-39.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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46<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u201cAttached to No. 56,\u201d p. 316.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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47<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u201cAttached to No. 56,\u201d p. 317.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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48<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Ibid<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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49<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Revell,\u00a0High in the Empty Blue<\/i>, p. 340; Revell notes two downed German pilots from that area that day: Ernst Aulenbacher and Erich Bethke.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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50<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u201cAttached to No. 56,\u201d p. 317.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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51<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Individual Combat Records of Pilots with R.A.F.<\/i>, p. 52.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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52<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u201cAttached to No. 56,\u201d p. 319.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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52a<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0 Read, letters of August 12 and 13, 1918, from Read, Letters, papers, and photos.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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53<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Herbert, T.J. (Thomas John) [casualty card].<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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54<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Kinney,\u00a0I Flew a Camel<\/i>, p. 98.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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54a<\/strong><\/a> \u201cAttached to No. 56,\u201d p. 321.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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55<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0Munsell, \u201cAir Service History,\u201d p. 166.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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56<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u201cPershing Honors Gallant Aviators.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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57<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0War Department, Office of the Quartermaster General, Army Transport Service,\u00a0Lists of Incoming Passengers, 1917 – 1938<\/i>, Passenger list, sick and wounded, Base Section 3, Base Hospital 37, Dartford, on\u00a0Celtic<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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